马睿奇（美国/R. Orion Martin）VS张永正
2012年2月28日下午
张永正昆明较场西路工作室
这些纸上作品和你其他作品有什么联系？
是两种画画的状态，纸本作品完全是即兴的，很少加入理性思维，思考比较少。布面作品属于常规创作，我需要画草图和计划整个结构。
所以对你来说纸本作品有更多的实验性？
对的。实验对我来说，是当一种方式做够了不想再做的时候，就会使用新的方式来做。
在看你的布面作品时我常常有一种混乱的感觉，但同时也能从这种混乱中找到一种秩序，而你的纸本作品我却不能感觉到这种秩序。
本来就没有想过要控制纸本作品，这个是很随性的，类似于涂鸦，却又不同。布面作品的秩序是我特意安排出来的，它有一定的节奏，有静态也有动态，而纸本作品是不考虑这些的。
你认为看你的作品需要预备知识吗？比如说你的作品和《易经》有很大关系，而西方人却不具备这些知识。
我觉得这个问题不大，因为我的作品很抽象，只有看到作品标题时才有人可能会关注到这些问题，而大多时候观者应该还是关注作品本身所传递的信息。我创作的时候运用了中国《易经》和道家思想，而中国文化断代很严重，大部分中国人对这些也不了解，所以我的作品对不同族群、观众都是公平的。我想 通过画面传达的是一种信息和一种感受。
没有预备知识，也可以感觉这个信息。
对，不可能为了看我的作品而先去读《易经》，《易经》这本书本来就很深奥， 但也有人通过我的作品再去了解中国的传统文化的，这也挺有意思。
你用什么标准评价艺术，或者你希望别人用什么样的标准评价你的艺术？
每个人的感受都不同。我看别的艺术家的作品更在乎其中个人独特的语言，我喜欢艺术家的真实、不造作，不喜欢艺术家模仿。
你认为艺术家的社会角色是什么?
我觉得艺术家与其他职业一样，只是所做得事不同。都是演员，各演各的角色，把自己的角色演好就行。
艺术家的角色是创造完全新的东西还是更专注于自己的思想和技术？
每个艺术家有自己的特点，不一样。我自己觉得这两点都是我在追求的，我要有自己的思想和技术，我也想创造新的形式。当然也有艺术家在语言形式上没有创新但作品非常具有个人气质，每个艺术家不同，看待艺术的视角不一样。
你怎么看当代中国艺术界？
和经济挂钩后中国艺术表面看起来很繁荣，背后却有很多问题，这种影响对下一代人，尤其是学生非常大。很多人画画的目的与我们从小喜欢画画，而且一直坚持是不同的。导致经济危机来的时候，很多人放弃艺术创作，可之前市场好的时候有很多画画的。我觉得现在是在一个过渡期，我们还没有在一个正常的系统里，人对待艺术的态度也还存在问题。
你希望将来艺术界会有什么样的发展？
今后的艺术生态应该会越来越好，真正的艺术家也会坚持下去。
谢谢你！
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